Is it true that for some people meat is unhealthy, and for some it is vital?

• In the course of evolution, after the ice age, when most of the plant foods became unavailable, man began to eat meat. But since in all evolutionary time a person eats meat very little, he has not adapted much to this type of diet.
• Proof of this is atherosclerotic changes in the arteries, which predators are quite capable of surviving, and we die from them in gigantic quantities. For us, meat is a very carcinogenic product.
• Also, by many anatomical and physiological features, we are much more frugivorous (distinguish from carnivores).
• Eating without all animal products is absolutely harmless, and can even be used for medicinal purposes (this is confirmed by research and supported by many nutritional associations of the world, as well as World Health Organization ).
• I advise you to google scientific research, and not read sites with far-fetched information.

All this is bullshit, a classic example of holivar, vegans and meat-eaters, eat whatever you want, just don't force others, the myth of the need for meat was invented by stew manufacturers. The essential amino acids in humans are: valine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, threonine, tryptophan, phenylalanine and histidine, as well as arginine, which ceases to be indispensable in the adult body. All essential amino acids are found in plants and plant foods. The rest of the amino acids the human body is able to synthesize independently from this set. Meat will not cause harm even with everyday use, however, provided that the animal was not fed with antibiotics and hormones, and this is possible only when buying a pig, bull or chicken from a private trader, and even then it does not give a guarantee, so I do not want to eat dirty tricks, the easiest way was to give up the daily use of meat, although I can occasionally crack shish kebabs when the occasion asks for it. And yet, it is worth giving the body a rest from meat a month a year in order to enable the excretory system to remove metabolites and take a breath. And I repeat, the issue of nutrition is a matter for everyone personally, you should not breed holivars about this, like about any other, although what I want, do it.

There is a living example: why does the body absorb a lot of iron, a complete rejection of meat, apples and alcohol :)

And for normal inhabitants of the northern regions, meat is necessary, 2-3 times a week - the optimal dosage. Although .. it still depends on the quality of the product, of course.

The most honest stupidity. In principle, meat cannot be harmful to humans (which in evolutionary terms are closer to predators). The amount and / or the method of preparation / consumption can be harmful, but this is a completely different matter. In fact, it is possible, of course, to fully replace meat of animal origin, but damn it is not so simple, since the amino acid composition of the protein part of the same beans and soy is still different from each type of meat. And alas, our body does not have a laboratory for the synthesis of absolutely all the necessary components that we can get from meat.

All this is true only if we are dealing with absolutely healthy people, without disturbances in the gastrointestinal tract and without any diseases associated with intolerance to a particular protein and / or amino acid. However, I believe these are too specific cases to cover in this question.

I always try to show simple mathematics to especially stubborn people so that they can understand how absurd eating without animal protein is.

As everyone knows, in order for a person not to lose muscle mass, he needs to consume at least 0.8 grams protein per kilogram of weight. This is provided that a person leads an amoeba-like lifestyle with almost no physical activity.

And 1.2 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight if a person plays sports.

I took the average figures.

Let's take a man weighing 80 kg.

It turns out that the need for protein with an amoebic lifestyle is 64 grams of protein. Or about 320 grams of chicken or about 10 eggs per day.

The requirement for protein with an active lifestyle is 96 grams of protein. Or about 480 grams of chicken fillet or about 16 eggs.

Now let's suggest this man become a vegetarian, but consume the same amount of protein in order to maintain muscle mass.

We have beans and soybeans that hold the record for protein content. The protein content in 100 grams of beans is 20.90 grams.

The protein content in soy is 34.90 grams for every 100 grams of soybeans.

Thus:

A man leading an amoebic lifestyle needs 300+ grams of beans per day or 190 grams of soybeans per day.

A man actively involved in sports - almost half a kilo of beans or almost 300 grams of soybeans.

I have never seen vegetarians who consume this amount of protein.

If a person eats carrots and apples, then for a man leading an amoebic lifestyle, the required amount eaten is calculated in kilograms (about 8 per day).

I can't imagine a person who will eat 4-5 kg ​​of greens a day to cover the need for protein (I averaged the figure)

Even nuts do not save such a diet.

(Many minuses are put. In the comments I left a lot of links to research. Study them before putting a minus. Thanks.)

No, this is not true. Meat is harmful to absolutely everyone. Man is biologically herbivorous, as evidenced by the fact that atherosclerosis can develop in us (atherosclerosis does not develop in animals adapted to eating meat). Even the Eskimo mummies, who ate mostly only meat, testify that they were dying of heart attacks and horribly clogged arteries (due to saturated fat and cholesterol in animal products). By the way, more than half of deaths in Russia are due to atherosclerosis, which is, in fact, an incredible epidemic. However, in societies that eat almost exclusively or exclusively on whole plant foods, heart disease is practically absent. Well, their life expectancy is naturally longer.

In general, people are allergic to substances in meat. For example, at alpha gal. People become allergic after being bitten by ticks. The disease does not spare even avid meat lovers. The symptoms are quite terrible: up to loss of consciousness and hospitalization. It was possible to associate the suddenly appeared intolerance to meat with tick bites by correlating the map with foci of bites and the map with cases of people with a previously unknown disease.

Vital - rather yes than no. And for everyone. And what is harmful is unlikely.

If the meat is properly cooked (not overcooked), then it is useful not in large quantities. If you eat more of it in moderation, and even every day, it will be harmful. If there are no serious health problems, then the benefits of meat are the same for everyone.

Yes and no. Meat is the richest in amino acids in our diet and the animal protein that is best absorbed by the body, so it hardly needs to be said that it can harm anyone. Tibetan medicine considers meat to be a uniquely healthy product, it just needs to be eaten fresh and properly cooked. There will be little benefit from a product thawed or reheated several times.
But really, there are people for whom meat is vital, and those who can easily do without it. It depends on a person's constitution or, in terms of oriental medicine, on the predominant type of energy in the body. There are three of them: wind, bile and mucus (or Vata, Pitta and Kapha). People with a wind and mucus constitution (thin, anemic, often freezing, prone to low pressure) should not give up meat, and people with a bile constitution (strong, prone to high pressure, often experiencing fever) can do without it.
By the way, it also happens that a person stops eating meat, because the product becomes heavy for him, he feels discomfort after eating. In such cases, most often we are talking about an internal imbalance (Eastern medicine also calls this the extinction of the digestive fire). A person stops eating meat, thinking that it is harmful to his health, and switches to lighter food. At first, there is temporary relief, but in the end, the state of health becomes even worse due to the imbalance in the diet, and the person does not understand what is the matter.

I would recommend such people to see a doctor of Tibetan medicine. By the pulse, the doctor can diagnose a possible depletion of the digestive fire, and help to return it in order to continue eating meat without feeling discomfort.

You can do without meat in countries where the constant sun, sea, fresh fruits and vegetables grow, in constant availability of oils, nuts, fresh fish. But in Moscow, especially in winter, I believe that meat is essential. It contains many amino acids, which are essential for the endocrine and musculoskeletal systems. The cells of our body are constantly renewing, and they need that "building material", which is found in abundance in meat.

But of course, there are those who refuse meat for personal reasons. I respect this choice, but I always advise such patients to follow a general rule: if you decide to give up meat, try to replenish the energy of the fire that it gave with something else.
Use warming spices more often: ginger, cardamom, cinnamon, curry , black pepper. In the evening, try to eat boiled, stewed, grilled food.

Efficiency is what matters. A person can change the diet, include and exclude different types of food, but he must competently replenish them with other food, which replaces the properties of the foods that he is canceling.