
If an organ is pulled out of a person and pricked, how and in what place will a person feel pain if the organ is outside the body?
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Answer 1
January, 2021Pinch yourself, pulling the skin well. What you feel will be like distant pain. Theoretically, you can multiply your feelings, then you get a more complete picture. That is, you feel that you are pinched, you can close your eyes and say what and where exactly. But that's just in space somewhere is not there.
For men: twist the penis so that its lower part is at the top. Swipe your finger along the top. Here is a good example for you when the brain comes into dissonance with sensations - you expect one thing, you get another. No kidding, a great example for women, I have no idea how to design it.
Answer 2
January, 2021Internal organs do not have spatial sensitivity, only the musculoskeletal system possesses this property. Therefore, the prolapsed intestine cannot hurt "outside the body", it will just hurt.
Gentlemen, men, let's set up an experiment: hit yourself not hard on the testicle (let's say, with a half-force). First, you felt a sharp pain - this is impulse from the fibers of the musculus cremaster (muscle lifting the testicle) and its, roughly speaking, ligaments. The pain is fast, sharp, but short, we endured it relatively easily. And we knew for sure that it was outside, and we were even able to determine which sector was hit.
And now the most interesting thing: after acute pain, after its peak, another pain slowly comes - dull, nasty, causing mild nausea. And the main thing is that you cannot understand its localization. It seems to be even in the stomach, somewhere below, but not in the scrotum. This second pain is the impulse from the egg itself. Which is innervated from the same plexuses as the abdominal organs. Therefore, we feel pain inside the abdomen. There is no spatial sensitivity in these organs, and we cannot say for sure where it hurts. It is because of this that it is so difficult for surgeons to distinguish appendicitis from intestinal colic, adnexitis or even a perforated ulcer, everything hurts about the same.
This also applies to all internal organs, without exception.
Answer 3
January, 2021Try to turn your tongue clockwise or counterclockwise and touch it with your finger, you will feel that you are touching the bottom of the tongue, although it is upside down
Answer 4
January, 2021Well, let's start with the fact that pulling an organ out of a person is not as easy as they think in Hollywood. Each organ is covered with a layer of connective tissue film, and this film is often connected to the film of nearby organs, the body wall / cavity. In addition, there are usually ligaments and other parts of the organ system with which our desired organ is connected.
Thus, if we want to pull the organ at least a minimum distance outside the body, we will definitely have to tear a little connective tissue and stretch the connected organs. Such a violation can already provoke pain, the intensity of which will directly depend on how tightly the organ was fixed in the body. For example, with due experience and care, it is possible to pull out a part of the intestine with minimal damage and, most likely, there will be no pain. With the heart, I think, it is more difficult - it is, firstly, connected with large arteries, which do not stretch well without removing the connective tissue, and secondly, it is tightly connected to the lungs by the same connective tissue. Accordingly, in this case, pain may occur already at the stage of organ release. At the same time, as was correctly noted above, this will not be a typical pain associated with irritation of pain receptors - there are practically none of them on the internal organs, but pain associated with irritation of nerves in the released organ, the surrounding connective tissue and in neighboring organs. Nerves can begin to transmit signals not only from the touch of metal instruments and direct damage from a rupture, but also from the stretching of the tissue in which they are located. At the same time, it is rather difficult to predict which nerves will begin to be excited, so the sensations will be strange and the pain will most likely be felt in various places.
After we carefully pulled out the organ, trying to damage as little as possible the nerve paths going directly into it and began to poke a needle into it, the pain will begin to be felt more targeted, but not in this organ, but in the corresponding zone of Zakharyin-Ged (due to the fact that the same place in the spinal cord deals with information processing both from a certain piece of skin and from a certain organ, and in such a situation it is difficult for him to figure out exactly where the signal came from). This phenomenon is called reflected pain, and provided that the neural pathways leading to the organ are preserved, it will work.
For the heart, for example, in this case, pain will be felt in the shoulder and armpit of the left arm, in the neck and under the ribs on the left side (although the heart will be outside). Even in spite of the fact that the ribs will be opened during extraction.
Of course, in general it is difficult to crank, because in order to extract the organ, the subject must be under anesthesia, and he will not feel pain. And if these are sadistic experiments, then the pain perception threshold may be exceeded even during the extraction process and the person will either be chopped off, or will not be able to determine the source of the pain at all.
In general, for sure, I think no one sHey, my whole answer is an assumption based on knowledge of physiology and experience of operations.
Answer 5
January, 2021Well, it's like with phantom pain: that hand has been gone for a long time and it is somewhere very far away, but the pain is somewhere where the hand should be.
The mechanism is the same in both cases: there is irritation of certain nerve endings, which seem to be anchored in a certain place. Well, or were they anchored (if I'm talking about an amputated limb)
Answer 6
January, 2021Many internal organs do not have receptors that should help us feel the injection. For example, you can take the brain - it is devoid of receptors and cannot feel the injection in any way. If they do exist, then the sensitivity will be where it is needed.
Answer 7
January, 2021Yeah. It looks like everyone is very bad with biology and logic teachers. Most of the internal organs do not feel pain on the outside. You can read more about this here: http://mojvuz.com/index.php?page=story&node_id=493&story_id=227
Answer 8
January, 2021The organ will be constantly touched while it is being taken out, and it will feel 'out of place'; the pain will feel accordingly the same.
Answer 9
January, 2021I will add from personal experience, not exactly about organs, but about sensations. Broke his arm. It reminded me of the letter G. While I was waiting for an ambulance, I decided to try to move my fingers. Little finger flexed, but then the brain began to go crazy. The eyes see that the little finger is 20 cm from the correct position, and the brain thought that everything was in place. So it all depends on whether you know where your organ is at this moment
Answer 10
January, 2021If you do not cut off the scalp completely and leave the place on the back of the head intact, and then wrap the conditional forehead on the back of the head and prick it, it will be about the same as if you carefully make an incision in the throat and pull out the tongue so that it hangs like a "tie" and prick. It will become clear that the forehead was pricked, but it is somewhere not there, that the tongue was pricked, but it is somewhere not there.
If you remove the skin from the hand, leave the hand (already just a bone) hanging along the body, and pull the skin at an angle of 90 degrees and pinch slightly, then you will feel that you have been pinched on the hand, but this hand is somewhere not there.
Having wrapped your intestines on the ventilator, you will most likely feel that your intestines are being wound around the ventilator , but some strange feeling: lightness in the body and pain somewhere in a couple of meters from you.
Breaking the leg in the knee so that it turns at an angle of 90 degrees to the left / right and scratching the heel, it becomes ticklish in the heel, pain in the leg and very upsetting in the shower.
Answer 11
January, 2021It seems to me that here an important role is played by whether the person knows that the organ has left the body or does not know. Our brain works in a very interesting way and, purely theoretically, can correct sensations according to the position in space from which these sensations came.
In other words, if an organ is removed, but a person does not know about it, then he will consider that the organ is in place and, accordingly, feel it inside the body cavity.
In case however, if a person is aware that the organ is outside the body cavity, then the brain, theoretically, will adjust the sensations in accordance with where the organ is in space.
However, this is all just speculation. And in my opinion, it is not worth empirically confirming them, because it will hurt the experimental one as hell.
Answer 12
January, 2021I'm certainly not a doctor (let them correct me), but the nerve endings will still work in place, although many internal organs seem to say, in fact, they do not hurt
Answer 13
January, 2021If we consider that the "patient" will be conscious and sane. The pain will feel the same as if the prick was inside the body. Because the brain will still perceive the signal from the organ, which should be inside, from the fact that the patient's eyes will see the pricked organ.
Answer 14
January, 2021O_o
An interesting question ... I'm afraid to guess where this curiosity comes from.
But if according to the subject, then it all depends on several things: if the person is still conscious and when taken out organ, the nerve pathways will not be damaged, and there will also be no pain from the eventration of the organ outward, then the stimulus will be felt in the native organ. But only if all the conditions are met!
And yes, tie up with such fantasies ...