If a drug addict can be cured by taking him to the village, isolating him from all habitual contacts, is there in principle physical dependence?

If a drug addict can be cured by taking him to the village, isolating him from all habitual contacts, is there in principle physical dependence?

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Answer 1
January, 2021

I will share my experience. Physicians saved me from physical addiction in 3 days and 5-6 days, but I coped with psychological addiction on my own. And in fact, only he and no one else can help a drug user to overcome psychological addiction. Imagine that a drug user who uses is in a certain habitat in his world and depriving him of this environment is equivalent to throwing a fish out of the water on the shore. It takes years to rehabilitate. I myself quit using in 2010, and more or less I felt like a person 3 years later. This is such a garbage.

Answer 2
January, 2021

You can't.

  1. Psychological addiction does not go away even after giving up cigarettes or drugs.

  2. Addictive behavior is treated by a psychotherapist. Drugs are only / one / manifestation of addiction and your "successfully cured" in such a clumsy way will not get rid of addiction or the desire to go into it. Alcohol, gambling, alcoholism, overeating, fanaticism. Your patient will say "thank you" that instead of drugs he will suffer from other addictions.

Answer 3
January, 2021

Do you really think that a drug addict can be cured this way? Hmm. In the best case, of all possible, this person will simply run away, get a dose and calm down for a very short period. At worst, he will go insane, hysterical and lose control of himself. It is very, very difficult.

Answer 4
January, 2021

I am firmly convinced that a drug addict will always remain a drug addict. I know a few heroin addicts. I often find out that after some shit in life, they resort to the old proven method. There are, of course, people who do it once and for all, but I'm sure there are very few of them.

Answer 5
January, 2021

Physical addiction is a withdrawal syndrome. It manifests itself when the addict stops using drugs and it does not last forever. The classic of the genre is breaking the heroin addict. Artificial endorphins enter the brain through the blood. The main effect of these substances is to increase the pain threshold ("pleasure" is already a side effect). To somehow adapt - the brain begins to reduce the production of its own endorphins. When there is no opportunity to use further (relatives tied to the battery), it turns out that the level of endorphins becomes very low and this leads to a sharp drop in the pain threshold. As a result, the whole body starts to hurt a lot. This business can last up to a month.

Physical dependence on psychostimulants (a la "Breaking Bad") consists in the fact that a person lies on the couch and cannot bring himself to do anything (for several days, some weeks). As a result, a person is forced to use these substances every day in order to be able to at least force himself to get up and go to work.

Physical dependence is not the worst thing (it is just an external manifestation). Tying (which, in itself, a feat), a person discovers that his level of normal mood has decreased. He, day after day, experiences mild depression, despite the fact that he knows perfectly well how to get rid of it. By the way, the brain will never forget about the drug and in any difficult situation will remind about it. In general, this is "eternal hunger" with which a person is forced to put up. And it also happens that withdrawal can take and repeat after, for example, three years of abstinence.

Answer 6
January, 2021

You can cure, but for a while. An example is the author of the book "We are children from the Zoo station" Christian Felsherinov. She became a drug addict as a teenager and struggled with addiction for several years. Then she was taken to the village, where she stopped using. However, having matured, Christiana returned to addiction over and over again, started relationships with drug addicts and never found freedom from substances.

Answer 7
January, 2021

Physical addiction certainly exists. The body of a drug addicted person, roughly speaking, is strongly imbalanced: additional substances are firmly built into his metabolism, which are absent (at least in such quantities) in the metabolism of a person without chemical dependence.

And if suddenly the regular intake of these substances is interrupted, then the body experiences a very real need for them, and a person becomes ill at the physical level (in addition to the fact that he is psychologically ill). Yes, after some time the body can gradually recover and rebuild, and work normally and without constant replenishment - but the suffering during withdrawal is quite real.

Answer 8
January, 2021

Cannot be cured by taking the drug addict to the village. These are fairy tales. If addiction was a whim, it might have worked. Perhaps you were impressed by the methods of Yevgeny Roizman and similar guys who justify such brutal methods.

But in many countries they try to treat drug addicts more humanely and humanely.

Physical addiction exists. Its strength has been compared to an ordinary physical need, such as thirst.

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