in my opinion, without delving into the subtleties, it is possible, guided by pure reason, to understand that since a person is not able to eat exclusively raw meat, directly from the bodies of animals without any tools, so if a person were naked in nature and should was not to die of hunger, which means he can in no way be a predator. Any predator does not need a knife and a fork, it has sharp fangs that can rip the skin and get to the flesh, and claws designed for the same. This is ridiculous, imagine if you had to eat a goat. Just imagine, there is a live goat, with horns and hooves. You need to break her skin with your nails, bite through her neck with your teeth. And then eat meat and not die after a week of such nutrition.
And now imagine that you are naked, standing in a field and see that berries are growing on a bush, a fruit on a tree, or you are pulling a plant out of the ground, and there is a root. And you just take it and eat it. just go and eat. This is what our teeth and nails are for. It seems to me that only an idiot can believe that a person is a predator.
Listen to Sophia Darinskaya's lectures on this topic. Maybe she'll at least help knock the crap out of your head. and in general, if something gets into your head - do it in silence, do not meddle with others with sermons.
Don't argue with us. Veganism is a moral choice. Where did you get the idea that you have the right to dictate to someone how to live? You have made your choice - a head of cabbage is in your hands. Do not go to others with your convictions.
Maybe, but the question is - how high quality, at what cost and for how long. No need to argue, except for fun and pleasure for all parties, then yeah, a million arguments and cunning logical constructions can be thought of to defend any position.
Here, for example, is cultured meat that is grown from cell cultures in nutrient solutions - is it a vegetarian product or not? And it will become very common pretty soon, because the technology becomes cheaper and more profitable.
Someone wants to eat animal products - and they do. Someone does not want, for ethical reasons or simply because the taste of such food is not pleasant - they do not eat it. Why argue about something? ... Why persuade?
Now they'll shower me with slippers, but oh well, I'll say it anyway.
Let's start with physiology.
Human intestines. In herbivores, the intestines are 15-20 times longer than their own body. In predators, 3-5 times. A person has 7-8. Conclusion: Man is not a pronounced herbivore or predator.
Well, we see teeth ourselves, yes. There is nothing special to talk about except that only in herbivores and in humans, the jaws move both horizontally and vertically, in predators only vertically.
The manner of drinking water. If you find me at least one predator that draws in water like a herbivore or a person, I will be grateful to you (I have been looking for the truth for a long time) and vice versa, at least one herbivore that laps water.
In predators, sweat glands are poorly or completely undeveloped, in herbivores and humans it is good.
Nails and claws, well you understand
In herbivores and humans, the salivary glands are well developed for the preliminary preparation of plant food. Predators are weak.
That's all I remember so far. Now let's imagine that a person has no tools. He won't even be able to catch and kill a domestic chicken, not to mention large mammals, fish and wild birds
Read the book Vegetarianism in world religions, everything is well explained there (from the point of view of religion). Both translation errors and original texts are cited. It's a mystery to me how believers can eat meat. Although blindly following rituals is not faith for me. I know a few true believers who don't eat meat. This is in order to answer people from the category of God, or whoever they believe in, created animals for people.
Now let's look at the meat itself, why is it not eaten raw, if it tastes so wonderful. It is masked in every possible way with spices, sauces, pickling and more. Walk around the market in the meat or fish row. The smell and the sight are terrible. Walk along the rows of fruit, the eye rejoices in the brightness of colors and the aroma of fruits.
So now let's walk through the notorious animal protein. Hmm protein, he is protein. There is no concept of animal protein and vegetable protein. The whole difference is in amino acids. It's just that animals have a more suitable set of them than plants, but you can eat two types of vegetables or fruits and you will have the whole set and you do not need to kill anyone. Although if you need the most suitable amino acid meat, eat a person, it is just perfect.
Let's go through the moral of the question, I don't even know what to write here, since it's so obvious to me that I can't rant about this topic. Well, read the statements of the greats of this world, most of them were vegetarians, you might even be surprised at how many. By the way, plants also feel, but I doubt that they feel the same pain and horror as cows, and to eat an apple you don't have to chop the whole apple tree.
And now, perhaps, something that will surprise many. Our planet is killed not only by the fact that we drive cars, but by the fact that we eat meat. Meat production consumes so many resources and releases so manyin waste that machines cannot compare with them. The ocean into which this waste is discharged is most affected. And without the ocean you yourself know what will happen. If you dig around the internet, you will find that a lot of money is being inverted into solving this problem. I don’t know they talk about it at every corner, how can you not notice it. Also why there was no cancer before, maybe because people could afford less meat.
So now there are stories from life. There are a lot of people around me who don't eat meat, some from childhood, some for a couple of years. Everyone is alive and well, playing sports, no need for additional pills. The main thing is to be able to balance nutrition. For the same B12, there is enough kelp. And another story, my relative works as a cook for one of the "celestials" (these are people from the Forbes list). You can imagine these people turning to such specialists. So here's a couple of tips from such a specialist from France. Firstly, do not eat meat, fish, poultry, eggs. In the second morning there are fruit salads and no fruit in the afternoon. Thirdly, consume enough water and do not overuse salt and other spices.
As for arguing with people, do not argue with them, people do not want to change. Leave them alone, these are their sins and problems. Work on yourself, watch yourself. Well, if you are harassed with statements "you can't go without meat," tell you the taste is disgusting, or you are allergic to meat, or smile indulgently. I have developed such a sympathetic view of such people that they immediately fall silent.
If someone persuades you to give up this nonsense, just answer that you eat food additives. And best of all, eat them. You won't get DHA (docosahexaenoic acid) from plants, it is found in fish, and EPA is also only from brown algae, which you have to eat in unhealthy quantities. B vitamins, again, iron. Get some pills and have fun. It will be difficult for your opponents to make the argument "you will miss the KDP and you will self-drink because of depression.
The main thing, guys, is a good metabolism, I think, I have not been recovering for a bunch of years now, I have not been thinning, of course, but my height is 57 kg, they suit me, I used to eat a lot - I did not get better, I eat a little - I don’t lose weight. So I understand what is the difference between replacing meat with vegetables or eating only meat, first of all you need to find out how with metabolism and whether food, for example, is suitable without meat or vice versa.
He can live, but how will it affect his health?
This is generally a rather difficult question. After all, when they talk about the need to consume meat (after all, there is something there that is not get it in plant foods) - they forget to remind about the need for proper nutrition in general. A certain amount of calories, the ratio of proteins / fats / carbohydrates, a certain amount of vitamins, minerals and trace elements ... And all this should change depending on the load and the environment . Well, who, I'm ashamed to ask, pays attention to all this ?! Yes, I don’t know one person who would really eat right.
So we are all in one way or another eating wrong. And nothing can be done about it. And there is no need to argue about this. You will only waste time ... both yours and others'.